My question:
Concerning "the breach of competition caused by tax fraud and tax planning, you've just mentioned (...) that you have 4 cases (being investigated in several member states). But we all know what the situation is, and now we have more details, we have more information and it is absolutely shocking.
So when you talk about 300
multinationals negotiating with a certain member state, my question is: do you feel
that you have the capacity, the legal capacity to address these generalised
practices? Because for citizens, and you understand it, it is a bit strange
that we go on discussing the details of competition and on the back there are
massive state aid through tax exemptions for which there are doubts if we have
the legal framework to address it or not. So my question is precisely that: we
are at a moment when we cannot go on as previously. Do you feel that through competition
instruments you are capable of addressing successfully these permanent breaches
of competition, or do you have to have a kind of major radical change,
political change, to address these issues because it is impossible politically
to go on like this, to be absolutely frank? You said there is no time for
complacency, I agree, but is the Commission prepared to lead this fight in a much
more radical, strong and honest way than until now?
Margrethe Vestager's answer:
To be radical, means to go to the
root of thinks. It is very important to realise that we have two different
debates here: we have one debate which is about state aids and distortion of competition,
and there I actually feel that yes, there I have the legal capacity. Because tax
rulings as such are common practice in member states. The problem of a tax ruling
is when the member state accepts that a tax payed by a specific company is
being calculated in a favourable way which does not correspond to market conditions,
so that this company will have a more
favorable tax treatment than other companies. Then there is a state aid
question in terms of fiscal aid. There we have a legal capacity. There we can
do something if we can prove our cases. And this is the reason why I find very
important to get wiser and to finalise the opened cases because then we'll know
much more about the practices. If you talk about tax policies as such, I think
that for instance you all know the proposal for a Common Consolidated Corporate
Tax Base (CCCTB). The last time I asked, nobody knew if it's still had a pulse.
This may be an important first step and of course I do hope that member states
and Parliament both take this proposal
up for renewed consideration
because I thing that would be a very important step to have a Common Consolidated Corporate Tax Base in order to get more transparency and for
those businesses who do not engage in aggressive tax planning. It will be much
easier because then they will know and they will not have to engage lawers and
tax advisers from the countries in which they are active. And that I think will
be new legislation that we actually need, if you're going to go the tax road to
avoid some of the situations we have seen over the papers in the last couple of
days.
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